I hope somebody got me one of those shirts...

Imagine hating on people who starved themselves and didnt sleep for days to pursue their dreams....so insensitive

i know we're hurt by what ethan said, but he's not wrong.. we really do have a problem of younger "fans" fetishizing our boys, people praising them just for being korean and pretty instead of their talents. it makes me not want to associate with the kpop label.

Well theh3h3 guys comment solely base on BTS shows he is clueless of KPOP girl groups like Black Swan and AOA...and that one that sings Wiggle Wiggle ....lol

I wasn't here for a few months and Philly aged 50 years

H3h3 needs to watch his language about minors tbh

I'm glad Ethan didn't apologize for the bts stuff

Soon India is gonna start getting muslims to wear armbands indicating their faith, sounds like history is repeating itself.

I kind of want to buy the naughty Santa sweater for a Christmas party! Damn you Walmart ruining all my fun!

Maybe if Ethan was actually funny and good at delivering jokes, there wouldnt be an uproar.

Ethan is a comedian. People need to chill He insults himself more than anyone on this planet

Where I see the logic behind the BJP's push to have this bill passed, I do also believe it goes against India's core values as a secular country. It was not founded on religious grounds (Unlike, say, Pakistan). Regardless, to expedite the naturalisation of religious minorities in a country that they came to in order to escape persecution back home is a good thing.

Calling BTS boys "men" is a huge insult to real men

being a man isn't defined by your external appearence though, men like you are hurting all men by implying you have to look and act in a certain way to be a man.

How can he marry a fat pig and abuse his own kids

Ethan said it is a joke. Haha go call black man N word and see how funny it is and how people will react. But hey call asian gay and not manly enaugh to be person of admiration and desire and it is just funny, despite it being racist stereotype that is heavily insulting. Surprise, surprise people got angry and questioning his beliefs and moral compass. Yes, we all so on wrong, poor Ethan. 🤧

Hey Phil love the videos! I am from bangalore, India. Just thought I'd say Modi is absolutely trying to flush out the muslim population or rather dilute them within minorities. This completely is in line with the beliefs of BJP as a party in whole. The recent Ayodha verdict is a small example of the large scale influence Narendra Modi as a figure, as a character, just like Trump with his branding, that people have bought into and the lengths they go to defend him. A bit heavy but hey had to be said.

Yah I’m on h3h3 side so sorry about it

I like h3 but his comments sounded like a boomer with some underlying weird racism. Personally he doesn’t deserve a hashtag, maybe just a callous post. I wasn’t even that mad about his first comments, but his response in my opinion was a lot worse, his tweet that brought up idol suicide was unneeded and shitty. They were people not pawns to ‘own’ stans, it’s weird for Ethan to use them as a comeback considering he’s suffered with mental health problems. All in all I think kpop stans did overblown it but it doesn’t mean Ethan doesn’t deserve criticism, he’s being edgy to be edgy isn’t a cool look for him.

next news : JTBC lmao

As an asian i felt the way h3 views asians and the xenophobia. And with how his audience reacted with slurs and lack of awareness reflects with it.

I would buy all three of those sweaters Walmart.

Yes. K pop sucks.

My problems with the H3 comments: 1. I don't see why BTS having more of a 'pretty boy' appearance means they should be referred to as 'gay'. With these comments, Ethan honestly comes across as being somewhat threatened by the fact so many girls are attracted to a type of guy that is the opposite of what he looks like. 2. I also don't get why teenage girls supposedly 'jerking off' or reading erotic fanfiction is being painted as a bad thing. Isn't it healthy for teenage girls to be exploring their sexuality?

Racisy

What Ethan said in the video was dumb and ignorant or just a part of the fanbase at least. I mean Justin beiber had the same shit happen with his fans. I don't know why he thinks it's just because of Asian men. Him saying fans online caused suicides though is legitimately disgusting. Like even looking into it a little you would know how wrong that is but also I doubt he realizes he just told tons of children and preteens that they cause suicides. Like what? He just doesn't know what he's talking about at all.

Ethan is correct. K-Pop is utter dogshit.

I think GRfilms owes its creators a lot more than it owes the millions of viewers who utilize their massive platform free of charge. In my opinion a Rewind like 2019, which spends all its efforts highlighting GRfilms's successful and diverse field of creators, is a LOT better than past Rewinds, which are just music videos using creators as props to pull the audience in with hundreds of "easter-eggs"

The h3h3 situation is fucking hilarious.As a kpop fan I agree with him xD

Okay, you can dislike k-pop and that's fine, everyone has stuff they like or dislike. Nothing about THAT is wrong. But what IS wrong is when you take a 'joke' too far and go out of your way to say things like "k-pop stans are the reason for suicides of idols". That's not cool. That's disgusting.

I was honestly fine with his jokes (not my taste but whatever floats your boat) until he started making jokes about suicides and mental health, which is a real problem that doesn’t just effect “fetishising girls and boys”. It affects real people who are struggling and don’t exist to be the butt end of a bad joke imo

I'm sorry, but how does suing a gun company for making guns not completely fly in the face of the second amendment.

NZ should ban volcanoes. That will solve the problem and keep anyone else from getting hurt/killed (he said, sarcastically...). In all seriousness, I hope that they take action to mount a serious rescue effort and find as many people alive as possible... not give up and simply refer to the situation as a "recovery mission. "

Eat a d

I mean. Ethan was just spitting facts. The majority of kpop fans are creepy and obsessive.

The Walmart thing was 100% deliberate. Poundland in the UK has done this sort of thing at Christmas for years, and their latest campaign made the news like a week ago. It's a marketing strategy, pure and simple.

Ethan is not a comedian and he has never been one. He has previously made racist comments. Lets ignore him this time, too?

Yup, here comes the social justice white knight keyboard warriors to try and silence a joke again 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Dog God I'll bet you're the kind of guy who goes to a comedy show just to get triggered

"Twinky gay fetishest" is not a joke. It wasn't a joke when I was in middle school, and it's not a joke now. It's just an insult. It's not even a funny or clever insult. It's lazy and old and boring. Just like Ethan.

When is the conversation with Jenna Marbles and Julian coming? Been waiting patiently for ages now. xD

That Suicide Joke just crossed the line for me, like c'mon this was very distasteful but i guess it shows how high Ethan thinks of himself right now.

WarsOfStars I’m not saying that it’s true for every idol. I’m just saying that it has been a contributors to some of them. But if I’m wrong then I’m wrong. Personally I don’t believe it crosses a line.

@WarsOfStars yeah but the korean general public/society aren't the people ethan was implying are responsible for their deaths- teenage western kpop fans. blaming suicide on kpop fans like that is just messed up. saying it's the main cause is just ridiculous behaviour. it's actually worrying to me that this ethan dude has brainwashed people into thinking that these kpop stars literally committed suicide because of their fans.

@Shyanna Mozone 'main cause of their suicide' please get an education :/ the cause of their suicide shouldn't be speculted on as public knowledge/craving for drama, it's not our place to speculate why people choose to kill themselves! and even it it was our place to speculate, it it still mere SPECULATION. it is impossible to know what was going through their minds leading to the decision, we do not have an insight into their personal lives. have some respect and stop making such harmful false claims.

Casper but isn't it the truth though? Look at Sulli and Goo Hara. Those girls has been abused and then was cyber bullied by a shit ton of people for coming out that she was abused by her ex (Goo Hara) and Sulli for speaking about Feminism and equality in Korea. They were different and Koreans apperantly really dont like that 🤷🏻‍♀️

Casper But it’s true. He’s not making fun of the suicides themselves. He’s making fun of the fact that people swear up and down that they are always behind an idol but then are the main cause of their suicide. It really is a fact that he pointed out. I mean the joke wasn’t funny yeah but I don’t think it crosses any lines.

Wait is there life on that island or not? You said many were hospitalized. Which is it? I’m confused.

How Ethan reply all the hatred is something else.. i like every single tweet that ethan made

i need that coke snorting santa sweater ASAP

I hate that i am admitting this but i used to be one of those people who wrote and read those creepy as fuck fan fictions and i can tell you from experience it is fucking absolutely revolting what (not even some, most) of the fans are doing,

Didn't kpop stans also were angry at Katy Perry because of some stupid shit?

My problem with Ethan's comment is the 'twink' part. Like why did he need to bring sexuality into this, especially using such a historically derogatory term? Particularly as kpop dudes often wear a lot of makeup and express themselves through fashion, it makes you wonder if Ethan equates that with being gay and has a problem with it. I don't really mind the rest of what he said, I can take being made fun of, but the gay bit went a little too far in my opinion.

Thank you. I was called "twink" for eight years straight when I was in school. I'm numb to it, it doesn't hurt me anymore, but it's definitely not funny or a joke. It's a very lazy insult.

Papa bless.

Onision is one of the worst people in the internet, he needs to be banned.

I would have been fine to write off Ethan’s comments as him trying to get outrage clicks/tweets. But he crossed a line twice with his comments about minors and sexual acts. & if he has made other comments like this in the past then that’s a lot of ammo if someone wants to go as far as to sue him. & then as a friend aptly put it “there’s nothing better than minimizing the epidemic of suicide and lack of mental health support that faces korean families as the fault of international kpop fans”

i know i'm gonna be seen as a dumbass or whatever for saying, but- i don't really respect Onision. But i want to hold him to the same standard. This just gives me ProJared vibes without his response. Either way I do think right now that these accusations may be true. But until some revelation comes out I'm not settling on it for good

honestly i was kind of giving ethan the benefit of the doubt, assuming that he was just making an out of touch joke about something he doesn't understand, whatever. but when he tweet that about idol suicide that was completely unacceptable. trivialising suicide is NEVER okay, especially if you're doing it because you're facing backlash for making an ignorant, mean spirited joke. like first of all "dozens" there have been six, and they were all real people with real, complex lives and individual struggles that led to their tragic ends and he had absolutely no right to use their deaths as bs statistic to defend himself against angry kpop fans. The tragic ends of Jonghyun, Sojin, U;Nee, Seohyun, Sulli, and Hara were more than just how they died, and to treat them as such is beyond disrespectful.

I don't know why we are supporting any KPOP act, period. Online trolling isnt why these KPOP Idols are commiting suicide, which Ethan ignorantly implied. Many of these idols are not paid and are encouraged to have a 'sponsor' who provides them with a place to stay, money etc in return for sexual favours. These women (and men) are manipulated to believe they have no choice if they want to succeed in the music industry. If you love KPOP and it's idols, don't buy their music. It sure as hell isn't going into the performers pockets.

depends on the group/agency and implying every kpop artist is victim to this kind of abuse is like implying every western pop artist is a victim. the kpop industry/system needs mass reshaping and reform but this has to originate from korea itself, as it's their celebrity system. it's already undergoing changes that will hopefully accelerate more.

Can you please look into this GRfilmsr who vlogged that her dog was shaking in pain and promplty left dog home to go to walmart and out to eat. grfilms.net/v-%CE%B2%CE%AF%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%BF-KsnVyF3F3OE.html One of the restaurants she went to eat at had one emergency vet on the same road as well as a few in the vicinty. She makes 10k a month apparently on YT but is just notorious for problematic behaviour. grfilms.net/v-%CE%B2%CE%AF%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%BF-KsnVyF3F3OE.html

GRfilms is the new vatican pedo protector.

Imma be honest i love the fact that the only reason h3h3 haters come out now is because theres other people on the internet that support them damn oh yeah and i hate kpop so yeah thats pretty much it

I dare say, based and redpilled

Am I the only one that can’t stand H3H3 or K pop?

I don't really care about K-pop either way, and I no longer enjoy H3H3, although I used to.

i think people are taking the ethan thing as “oh it’s just bts fans being snowflakes bc he doesn’t like their faves” but in reality the homophobic, racist and sexist tones he used are disgusting. asian men are often belittled and feminised in western culture and whenever teenage girls enjoy something grown men seem to think it’s okay to make fun of them. he just proved that western culture isn’t as forward thinking we like to pretend it is. also fanfiction and celebrities committing suicide are both VERY prominent in western culture but it is only brought up and discussed when people are trying to drag down and shame other cultures . it’s a cycle of racism that people don’t want to acknowledge.

Trump 2020 I’m dead ass

On the topic of Ethan’s comment about K-Pop, I agree that the K-pop fandom on twitter is among the most toxic fandoms i’ve ever seen; but I don’t agree with him referring to the artist(s) (BTS in this case) “twink gay” that was unjustified, the fans rabid behavior shouldn’t be a reason for you to insult the artists themselves when they haven’t done anything, same goes for any other boy bands that are similar (N-Sync, Beatles, Backstreet Boys)

Paid news about India..good to see Philip getting paid well by Pakistan

taking a swipe at the most active online users on the planet just explains you needed the attention. Come on, before you go ranting on youtube, there's always a discussion on what to be used as a topic. You can't just make a boring topic, you'd lose viewership. Besides, it's tried and tested, angering people is the best publicity, just look at Lew with his phone case.

Edit: TL:DR The fact kpop has a lot of toxic fans are true everyone knows it's true for every fandom ever. However what H3 was just stupid, and actually homophobic. I've been a fan of kpop for years so the occasional person saying that's weird or stupid never bothered me, but this was just h3 being dumb and attacking something cause he didn't understand it. He sounded like a 13 year old coming up with his first insult but it's whatever he tried. Plus he then goes on to trivialize suicide and mental health which has been a problem with all of the entertainment Industry. Any kpop fan has probably heard this all before, and it never ceases to just be some insecure and childish person not having an open mind and attacking something they see as "gay and lesser" cause they don't understand

Here have some bar soap to wipe your butt with after it's doing being hurt.

I missed the party, so I doubt anyone gives a shit what I want to say, but indeed i want to say it 😎 There are two types of people. People who care about filters, and people who don't. I saw a lot of comments saying that Ethan should have censored himself - but y tho? Saying he should have filtered himself suggests that people are more mad that he said it, rather than that he thinks it. It's some weird shit, man. People who are campaigning for him to be cancelled - do you honestly think that ethan is a racist homophobe? Do you honestly believe that as a person, he is actively prejudiced against non-whites and gays? I'm especially asking this as well to people who have watched him. The answer should categorically be no. Then why, knowing the way he is and his sense of humour would you campaign for his cancellation? Because he directed that towards something you like and in extension, yourself? That's some weird shit.

freedom of speech does work both ways, it's not freedom from consequences. if you say controversial things you have to accept people will disagree and express their own opinion, even if this opinion is to 'cancel' someone and censor them- though I don't think people criticising h3h3 is the same as saying he shouldn't have a platform at all

I don't know about racist, but "twink gay fetishest" is in fact a homophobic slur, and has LONG been a homophobic slur. I heard it nonstop when I was in middle school and high school, and I still occasionally get it shouted at me on the street. Calling people who dress well or are a bit more effeminate than you "twinky gays" is about as much of a "joke" as using the n-word. It's not funny, the context didn't make it funny. It's just a slur.

India has joined the server.

His name is James Jackson?? He literally sounds like a Batman villain ..

Ethan acting like a douchbag... shooooking!

Why would Walmart apologize for these? You can go to Walmart and see a 400 kilo half naked person on a motorized scooter shopping for guns. A cocaine santa shirt would be more normal.

Lol Ethan isn’t wrong tho

Just by him demanding $10,000 that should tell you how he is.

Phil do a conversation with Hasan Menaj

First time i agree 200% with h3h3 fuck kpop stuff, dont care for it either.

You can dislike K-pop and also choose not refer to people as "twinky gays." That's a legitimate choice.

1. Ethan was at fault. The point he made is a valid opinion - nothing wrong with him saying he doesn't like K-pop. But insulting the people that do like it crosses the line. Never been a fan myself; but if something makes people happy and doesn't hurt anyone live and let live. Why bring conflict into it.

I feel like the people complaining about Ethan aren’t people who watch him , but just heard the story and began to rage

I used to listen to their podcast, but Ethan has gotten more and more aggressive and angry lately. A lot of his stuff no longer feels like joking or humor, it just feels like him raging against groups and people he doesn't like and getting mad that everyone isn't the same as him. And yes, him tossing around slurs recently as lazy "jokes" (that aren't even funny so what's the point) is kind of disappointing. Suffice to say, I don't listen anymore.

Ethan was homophobic in his joke. He's not a comedian, he's just ignorant.

I’m 25 and I’ve slept with over 30 people 20 is not that much

K-pop is deserving of any bit of shit it gets. It's literally a meatgrinder of mass-produced "artists", existing only to fullfill fetishes of pre-pubescent girls and boys. They have absolutely no creative control, they are products that get dumped in the streets immediately after showing any signs of aging and replaced by the next product. Hell, they cannot even get in relationships, because the children that are meant to enjoy these shows need to delude themselves their idols are "pure and available". Nobody's criticizing people for enjoying an odd song here and there - they are engineered to be easy to listen dopamine hits. But getting involved with the toxic industry and actually caring about it is hella cringe.

@alice gw That's a long exercise in "I was just following orders" argument. If you know the industry is toxic and you still engage in it, you're just a delusional hypocrite. Also, "my special snowflake artist is different". Good for you and them. That's not the norm.

a lot to unpack in this comment. yeah the kpop industry has big problems but the western industry has an equal number of issues, i mean a recent example is what is going on with taylor swift and her manager or whatever (look it up if you don't know because i can't explain it easily), contract disputes, abuse, suicides, you name it. but people act like kpop is the most degenerate industry in the world when really it just mirrors what has been happening in every entertainment circle since the beginning of time... and this isn't to shield the industry from criticism but to point out the hypocrisy. secondly, you present this very cliche and generic view of kpop but you're actively dehumanising the artists yourself. rather than critiquing the industry you're using your hatred of the industry as an excuse to belittle fans and the artists. plenty of kpop fans actively despise the agencies or talent companies of their fave artists and stand by these artists during things like contract disputes or whatever. also, while the industry is flawed this doesn't mean you should engage in blanket criticism that overlooks the fact plenty of artists do possess creative control, an example being jackson wang from the kpop group got7 who created his own company to release music he wrote and produced himself- this is one example I can think of but there are many more like this. so, saying every single kpop star is a mass produced piece of meat is a generalisation that does a disservice to the artists who completely oppose this perspective- and there are more than you think. and about the relationships, yes the agencies sometimes demand artists hide relationships from public view but this says more about the way the agencies operate than it does about the artists themselves who have their own lives off screen. while some fans may hate the concept of their idol having a relationship, this is gradually changing as it becomes more popular in the west. TL;DR there are plenty of artists within kpop challenging convention and doing what they want even if this isn't the majority, it should be looked on from a nuanced pov rather than these blanket statements which serve to dehumanise everyone in the korean entertainment system and paint them all as one monolithic mass.

Yagi you really think you know better than the people who are...idk, fans of the thing? k-pop is just a genre. yes, companies do fucked up things, but you can’t say that none of the idols are ARTISTS because they are. they are just as passionate about their craft as western artists. stop generalizing them just because you don’t know them.

Good ol' Ethan - never disappoints.

Ethan is a toxic boomer and twitter kpop fans are the worst of the whole fandom

3:30 is actually amazing

This year wasn't worse, but it was really boring. For 2018, I may just watch it again just to feel the cringe but for 2019, I don't think I would ever feel like watching it again.

Oh wow. Ethan Klein gets absolutely hated on for speaking his opinion on disliking BTS. I wish I could say I was surprised. I don't like BTS either, but for fear of being publicly executed, I ain't gonna publicize it. Wait...

@alice gw I've never heard the term before so, forgive me for the ignorance.

@ultimatepunster a straight person (i'm not familar with ethan but judging by the context of these comments I assume he is heterosexual) using the word twink in such a derogatory way is borderline homophobic because it's often been the case where gay men are derided for looking 'twinky' aka stereotypically 'gay'.

@Dog God What did he say that was homophobic? The only term I heard was "twink" Is that what you're referring to? I honestly didn't know that term was considered homophobic. I dunno, I'm feeling completely apathetic to the situation. So he insults some famous artists, so what? Like that's never happened before. I genuinely don't understand the backlash. But then again, I follow the saying "actions speak louder than words" and he never did anything but talk. And words mean practically nothing without actions to back them up. Like saying you're gonna kill someone, and then never doing it. Or telling someone they're worthless, but never trying to prove it. At that point, it's just an empty insult, that shouldn't be taken seriously. But, I understand not everyone shares my point of view, so I won't preach to you. I'm just giving my general thoughts.

Nobody is criticizing him for disliking K-pop. You can dislike and dunk on K-pop all you like. But throwing around homophobic slurs and directly insulting the artists themselves is not "criticism," it's just hatred. i.e. if someone called you a "retard" you wouldn't think that's "criticism," it's just an insult. "Twinky gay" is not a criticism. It's a slur.

He was not criticized because he said he did not like it but because he insulted BTS without even knowing them or anything about them and their fans also without knowing anything about them. Like if I called you names and insulted you and then called it a "joke" without even knowing you or anything about you, would you be ok with it? In my country that is called bullying

It seems people have thoroughly forgotten World War II. Fascism is making a comeback.

Love h3h3 man

I'm honestly surprised everyone is dwelling on Ethan "dunking on K-pop fans" and not the "twink gay fetish" comment. Honestly, yeah, that's a VERY homophobic comment. I don't see how it can be seen as anything OTHER than a homophobic comment. "Twink" is a straight up slur. People are going to be like "IT'S JUST A JOKE!!!1!" but... how is it a joke, exactly? It's not particularly funny. It's just an insult, and frankly it's MORE insulting to gay people than to K-pop fans.

As a gay person I have never thought twink was a slur and have only seen other gay people use it

@weeks weeks might I suggest, ok local

I feel like all he really said is he doesn’t get it and he doesn’t like k-pop - also twink is gay slang not a gay slur

What's the kpop equivalent of ok boomer?

ethan seemed genuinely angry ranting during that segment too. not much “joke” energy coming from it. the worst part was his tweet mocking the recent kpop artist suicides & straight up telling harmless teens they *directly caused* those suicides because they sent him videos of kpop people dancing. he knows nothing about the epidemic in korea when it comes to suicide or the evil knetz & journalists there. lost tons of respect for him tbh.

I wish people would leave H3h3 alone. He makes commentary. He didn't mean it as racist or homophobic. People are ridiculous and lmao I am proud of him for his response. Also the Walmart sweaters are funny

"He didn't mean it as homophobic." Bullshit he didn't mean it that way. "Twinky gay" has been a very common homophobic slur for a very, very long time. I was regularly called a "twink" throughout middle school and high school. It has never NOT been a slur. It was the number 1 slur used against gay kids in the '90s and 2000s. He knew exactly what that meant when he said it. This is like calling someone the n-word and then saying, "But I didn't INTEND for it to be racist!" Ridiculous.

So GRfilms will take down Vomit Cake but leave Onisions videos up.... ok youtube....GRfilms ok....

I wasn’t really bothered by what Ethan said until he brought the death stuff in on his tweet, not only was it very insensitive of him, it was also very inaccurate and false. These few Kpop idols who have taken their lives did it out of circumstances like depression, relationship abuse and etc. Which isn’t something new or controversial when you look at the western industry and see the artists who have also done the exact same, using this topic as a clapback to seem feel more entitled to your opinion was just an asshole move in my opinion.

but isn't it the truth though? Look at Sulli and Goo Hara. Those girls has been abused and then was cyber bullied by a shit ton of people for coming out that she was abused and then was blackmailed using her sextape by her ex (Goo Hara) and Sulli for speaking about Women's right and equality in Korea. They were different and Koreans apperantly really dont like that 🤷🏻‍♀️ Ethan was just poiting out how toxic K-pop stans could be and it *is* very much true.

U do realize most of them aren't allowed to have relationships or aren't supposed to because of fans fantasizing over them making more money. It's typically in their contract.

joking about hating kpop is whatever, but blaming kids online for suicide was so fucking weird :/ everyone knows in korea that it is *not* harmless kpop fan teens causing korean artists to kill themselves. that tweet was just disgusting honestly. jumping to “ur kpop favs kill themselves because of you” because teenagers posted videos of koreans dancing was wayyy too much and just left me feeling sad :/ i miss jonghyun&sulli, feels nasty that he used their suicides as a joke. ethan needs to shut up about stuff he knows nothing about. i miss when he used to say stuff like “it’s goofy so i’ll make fun of it but no hate to them they’re just doing their thing” now he’s just bitter all the time & joking about real peoples suicides and it’s sad to see that decline.

Wow! I personally have nothing against the Muslim religion and Muslim people. But, all Muslim countries have a long history of tension and unrest. Why? I don't know

@Dog God thanks. So man makes the religion and kills those that don't believe his BS or against their BS that takes how long to create because ther individual that people pray to wasn't knowledgeable enough?

Because it's a fairly new religion, only about five hundred years old, and is still undergoing reformation. Please be aware that as Christianity was undergoing reformation, it turned countries upside-down with the wars and turmoil it caused. Ever heard of the Crusades? The Holy Wars and Just Wars? The Inquisition? Please read a history book.

You walk in a volcano? You get what you deserve!

I'm not a K-pop fan but Ethan is really just an ass hole who shuts down all opposition by saying "it's a joke" Just because something is a joke doesn't mean it's absolved of all criticism.

I used to like Ethan now i dont but its not due to this. This witch hunt is stupid.

I want that fkn Let It Snow jumper.

Teenage girls have always had neurotic fandoms over all kinds of pop culture shit, Ethan is just pointing to the latest trend to exhibit this disturbing behavior. Did everyone forget emo? Twilight? Backstreet Boys and NSYNC? The Beatles? Elvis Presley? This sociological trend goes back decades. EDIT: Hoes mad, hoes mad. It never fails that people get upset at the very mention of the fact that sex does indeed pigeonhole people into certain personality traits. You're not the masters of you destinies that you think you are, snowflakes.

@Kyotra Have you ever seen a teenage boy throw a fucking fit and destroy his room over losing a video game or watching his favorite football team bite it? Or basically turn his wallpaper into posters of Deadpool and The Punisher? Because I have. You're criticizing teen girl fandoms but ignoring that teen boys do the exact same shit.

@Penny Bleta So are you saying that you act like a crazed emotionally-unstable teenager? Because my point was that teenage girls act loco over stupid shit (teens in general are....off, we've all been there), I have no issue with the adult fans (well, unless you're acting immature and attacking any and all detractors over a _friggin' boy band_ like some kinda wacko).

@Kyotra i mean your comment focused on what you deem to be a specfically female strand of toxicity in the form of 'neurotic' fandoms thus I presented the opposing argument of what I termed a largely masculine form of toxicity in the shape of sport fandom

@alice gw >masculine form of toxicity Aaaaand opinion discarded. Go be an SJW somewhere else.

I am 31 Greek Army and most of the fandom are over 20 so dude my suggestion to you is get help. It is my professional advice for free

Im fucking 37 and love bts. Age doesn’t matter

I feel like the overreaction to Ethan sort of proved his point, although his point could have been worded better. Also...those sweaters are awesome.

I don’t like Ethan anyway, so I’m not surprised he said something like that. I don’t mind people making jokes about Kpop, but I don’t like the way he was saying those things. He’s right though that there are a lot of really weird fans out there, but to me this all didn’t seem like a joke, but just some bashing. And since he seems to love fans getting angry over this...good for him

Ethan is Yang Gang so I doubt he hates asians

The main reason why Modi was elected is because of people being sick of the alternatives. The left leaning INC was headed by a moron. That being said, Modi did have a great opportunity to improve the country, but he let it slide. He prioritized religion above all else. Any country that prioritizes religion like this is a huge mistake. Religion has a place in society and it's not in the government.

i honestly wish people who hate kpop would just shut up about it. no one cares that you dont like the popular thing, ethan. it’s not a personality trait.