Red's Overpriced "Mini Mag" Cards - The Real Story

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    Red Digital Cinema has come under fire recently over allegations that their Mini-Mag storage cards are just cheap commodity SSDs in a fancy enclosure. As it turns out, there's some truth to these assertions, but the situation is not quite as simple as it's made out to be. Let's unwrap it.
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Richard Norman
Richard Norman

#StopSupportingStupidity ... teach everyone to understand the engineering (expectantly the Lack of ... marketing scheme [Nike, Apple, Elon Musk, and other overpriced 'crap'] ).

Πριν 23 ώρες
neil johnson
neil johnson

and for all those youtubers using red like 4 of you get pissed off for the rest of the world keep hoping the lens in your phone is good enough

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Jeremy Parker
Jeremy Parker

9:45 There's a problem with this drive. Scan the drive now and fix it.

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Nathan Miller Video
Nathan Miller Video

Been a RED user for a few years now. You have to buy the Mag slot anyway separately so why can’t they provide other options like you can which just about everything else you can attach to the camera like maybe a CFAST 2.0 module to record to that? Or a 2.5” SSD if you are not going to touch the lower compression ratios. I don’t even shoot less than 13:1 anyway. The video bit rate would be fine!

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George A
George A

So will it work if I swap out the ssd in there with my own ssd?

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readme info
readme info

I am genuinely impressed by how honest you've remained all this time. Great job. So many other YT chans have clearly signed a deal with the devil. BUT YOU, you are the real deal. Thank you.

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readme info
readme info

Remember those unique chinese made RAID enabled SATA cards that were made up of smaller microSD cards, you reviewed awhile back? I wonder if for redundancy sakes, someone could use a similar adapter that either allows 2 mSATA cards, or simply 2 microSD cards, in RAID 1, and jam it all into a REDX mini mag case, and have built in RAID support :)

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Jory Ferrell
Jory Ferrell

So...moral of the story: stop buying their products until they stop ripping people off.

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Jo Blo
Jo Blo

I really had no idea what the issue was about before, but the explanation was so well articulated and had such a balanced perspective i feel like I should want retribution for all the money on them i never spent.

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BCGTR
BCGTR

I looked these up and I was like, how much is that gonna cost, $1000 max, then I looked it up and it was $2350 at B&H which is insane. A used 120gb at adorama was literally over $600. Thats insane

Πριν 2 ημέρες
XonereX
XonereX

Red has a super scummy business model. I honestly think buying their overpriced camera was a mistake on Linus' part. A 4k camera wouldve been just as practical and quite a bit cheaper

Πριν 3 ημέρες
Singled Out Pictures
Singled Out Pictures

Anything to do with cinema production is ridiculously over priced, from the body to the lenses to the accessories. It's a racket!

Πριν 4 ημέρες
Johannes Dolch
Johannes Dolch

So, y'all are fine with spending as much on a camcorder as a fully outfitted Mercedes E Class, but then complain that the cards they sell are too expensive? lol. But I agree, they should put the best in there, meaning 2 of the best SSDs they can find in a Raid 1 Configuration. (That would actually also justify putting it all in a cool proprietary cartridge.

Πριν 6 ημέρες
RamenGod
RamenGod

Lmao imagine using fat32

Πριν 6 ημέρες
joshua41175
joshua41175

So when is the red camera water cooler done

Πριν 8 ημέρες
BlockArchitech
BlockArchitech

Notice: if your going to make a comment saying ‘oh proceeds to show USA markings’ note that he got his before the entire scandal happened

Πριν 9 ημέρες
Me 2
Me 2

them R&D monies are 100% used to calc how to get the most profit out of nothing fooling people in the unknown.

Πριν 10 ημέρες
Liam
Liam

You didn't know they were just SSds in an enclosure? Thats what the industry is right now lol we do the same thing in our products.

Πριν 10 ημέρες
sprrocket
sprrocket

Linus: RED splits the video footage into 4GB files me: wait are they STILL using fat32 Linus: it's because they're using fat32 skdjflaksjdflkasjdf

Πριν 10 ημέρες
Gabriel I
Gabriel I

sprrocket hmm fat32 isn’t bad its still a staple around the gaming market like Motherboard os updates

Πριν 8 ημέρες
roblax87
roblax87

Great job documenting the bots!

Πριν 10 ημέρες
nitrxgen
nitrxgen

1:30 what kind of psychopath uses a screwdriver like THAT WTF

Πριν 12 ημέρες
Titan Gaming
Titan Gaming

could have said, 'Made on Earth'

Πριν 13 ημέρες
Ionixt E. Bix
Ionixt E. Bix

im surprised that linus actually tried to protect the company that pretty much scam him

Πριν 13 ημέρες
Solomon Ucko
Solomon Ucko

The size inconsistency could also be due to unit confusion: 476.8 GiB ≈ 512 GB, 480 GiB ≈ 515.4 GB, 931.3 GiB ≈ 1 TB, 960 GiB ≈ 1.031 TB

Πριν 13 ημέρες
DragonNexus
DragonNexus

"Red claims this is to protect the user from accidental deletions" *Off camers scoffing laugh*

Πριν 14 ημέρες
Darian Kimberly
Darian Kimberly

Welp, never getting a red.

Πριν 15 ημέρες
mirk bir
mirk bir

Hehehehehe!

Πριν 17 ημέρες
Sonny12681
Sonny12681

I bet it costs less than $5 to manufacture this camera and it's parts and they jack up the price to a ridiculous about. That company is committing a scam.

Πριν 17 ημέρες
MISC BITS
MISC BITS

Msata is still a thing?

Πριν 19 ημέρες
carphotography101
carphotography101

I hope this was filmed on a RED Cinema camera...

Πριν 19 ημέρες
Peter Chiung
Peter Chiung

basically RED Ceo wants to profit as much as possible at the expense of customers tricking them that they are getting a far better product.

Πριν 19 ημέρες
Informed Choice
Informed Choice

Oh, a shitty greedy company overcharging without justification. Red Dead Non-Redemption

Πριν 20 ημέρες
John Grimes
John Grimes

WTF? Spare area? You mean over provisioning? Come on linus you know better then that. Use proper terms please. Its never good to teach people improper terminology.

Πριν 21 ημέρα
John Grimes
John Grimes

Maybe dont rip people off and people wont rip off your ideas. Fuck Red. Camera price is understandable but all the peripherals? Insane...

Πριν 21 ημέρα
Dakota Martin
Dakota Martin

0:59 First time I've ever heard a Canadian say "ya'll"

Πριν 22 ημέρες
Gordon The Train
Gordon The Train

I can't believe it. Linus! Linus! is protecting red. this is weird because he wasn't to happy when he bought it

Πριν 23 ημέρες
Sun Pak
Sun Pak

lmao red also sells a basic SSD reader for $250 https://www.red.com/red-station-mini-mag-usb-3 A 9 foot LITERAL CAT 5 to proprietary fake cat 5 port for $120 https://www.red.com/RED-GIG-E-Right-to-CAT5E-Ethernet-Cable-9 a "tactical" handle for $150 https://www.red.com/dsmc2-universal-handle

Πριν 27 ημέρες
Kerim Kerim
Kerim Kerim

Nobody: I'm about to end this guy's entire career. Not even a single soul: Everybody Me: Wait that's illegal. YouTube's Recommendations: It's free real estate. Am I a joke to you: Also Me:

Πριν 28 ημέρες
SOL WOLF
SOL WOLF

Linus will go down in history as a legend

Πριν 28 ημέρες
The Adventure Biker
The Adventure Biker

I am late to the partay. Just.....Wow.

Πριν 28 ημέρες
kasa
kasa

I think jinn1mag should be called out for their false statements. But I'm glad they are out there and vent viral. Red is still charging obscene amount of money for an adapter. And on top of that they have clearly taken steps to stop user from using third party drives. Even though they are using standard hardware that could be very easily changed if not for manufactured obstructions. Also, it's true that it's ultimately on customer to decide. But it's kind of messed up if customer had to do in depth research on every product they buy to be assured they get real value. I think Jinn1Mag did service to people by bringing awareness to this. Ultimately as far as Red mini mag is concerned, everything about it is designed to take as much money from people as possible. I mean recovery service is just another way justify the price and low quality. You could just as well take it to any other recovery service as the hardware is standard. I wouldn't be surprised at all actually if they used third party service for recovery anyway. Reading worker reviews about red kind of gives me image that Red's management is just bunch of greedy assholes.

Πριν 29 ημέρες
TheRealCritique
TheRealCritique

F RED. Other companies are catching up to their proprietary BS and offering equivalent quality at 20% of the price. They blew it. Hope they collapse.

Πριν 29 ημέρες
Ionixt E. Bix
Ionixt E. Bix

why tf is linus defending a money-eating company lol

Πριν 29 ημέρες
Masterpj555
Masterpj555

Red camera is a scam company who makes lots of claims about inventing things but actually is just a company who repurposes tech > puts it in a different enclosure and then adds lockout chips. Don't support this company

Πριν μήνα
Ariana Hadley
Ariana Hadley

15 mins of my life I will never get back

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TheImmoralCookie
TheImmoralCookie

To be fair, you could probably find a few hundred computer engineers that could design their own SSDs like Red's and it be either free or really fucking cheap.

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Ayoub
Ayoub

samsung: sells good SSD's for a low price RED: wait, thats illigal!!

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Gonçalo Alegria
Gonçalo Alegria

What a shill

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Rakesh Battula
Rakesh Battula

hope they had a better explanation to save their faces

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MinecraftMike
MinecraftMike

I was on RED's side until I saw the price for that SSD. What a joke kek

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Robert Wright
Robert Wright

Excellent video!

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William Creegan
William Creegan

Nice job Linus .

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Kyle Robertson
Kyle Robertson

My question here becomes this, if u don't like what a company is doing, and evidently have complaints about their product, why do u still use it. Annnddd, if the answer is "it's the best product for us" or something, then stop whining

Πριν μήνα
Shanee Bahera
Shanee Bahera

he isnt whining about them, its because this blew up a few months ago and people were asking him to adress it

Πριν 19 ημέρες
T B
T B

DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Linus went off

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ZoeBios121
ZoeBios121

Red has engineered a raid 1 solution. You're using it wrong. You're supposed to buy 2 complete rigs and 2 people to operate the two rigs.

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AJComputerServicesUK
AJComputerServicesUK

12:03 hahahahaha 😂

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vegoutwithvegge
vegoutwithvegge

Now that someone else's video has gone viral its time to copy it.

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The Glow Cloud
The Glow Cloud

Here's a novel solution: STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY TO RED. Why do Youtubers who get big enough think they all have to buy overpriced Red bullshit? Fuck them.

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The Glow Cloud
The Glow Cloud

I'd suggest Sony F35/F65, Panavision Genesis, Arri D-21 or the newer Alexa, or a Thompson Viper.

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Loreaver
Loreaver

What other camera would you recommend?

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MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS
MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS

Wait y’all did some editing after the fact. I didn’t know you can add more images and voice over after the fact. YouTube editing getting more advanced

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RectalDiscourse
RectalDiscourse

The only mags I have experience with are pornographic

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